Comments on: Religious conflicts

By: pRicky

pRicky — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:39:10 +0000

Umm… rioting like pointed out is mass mentality… and its just animal frenzy where humans lose reason and follow the wolf shout and react without acting on reason or logic…
Anyone who denies the possibility of a certain belief held by you religious or moral, chemical or physical, possible or seemingly impossible is essentially disagreeing with you, being ignorant and has no real argument to enter a discussion.
You are correct in being sorry. Though, I have to say if they are certain to know that you arent a conventional believer… then all this person needs to know is that conventions are human designs… and he has his existence misplaced in a large manner if he bases beliefs on purely acquired conventions…
Don’t waste your anger on this… not listening has conventionally been a very human idiot trait!!!
I’d like to see this person quantify passion and love…
If rose is conventionally his way of reconginising love and sweat to recognise passion… HELP is required…
UMM and PRUDE… very well written… but i guess thats not the point!

By: h

Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:57:43 +0000

riots are essentially a result of mob-agitation which has less to do with personal belief that with larger, devious political motivation.

i think this person who has told you you’re an atheist has a very narrow understanding of the mechanism of human thought.

I think what you’re feeling, more than anything else, is this deep sorrow of alienation: not because this person has rejected the potential of your belief, but because this person will never be able to live up to the faith you have invested in their capacity to truly ever understand you.

I’m truly deeply sorry.

By: Ashwathy

Ashwathy — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:32:19 +0000

people who make assumptions on certain topics based on stereotypes or on their own beliefes find it difficult to believe anything out of the usual/ordinary/accepted concept. this is particularly so regarding very personal topics like belief in God. it’s like running into a brick wall.

I’ve had a conversation with my mom along the similar lines. She argues that I don’t have faith in God, I say I do but that doesn’t mean I am not guarded. I believe in miracles as much as she does, but then I feel unless I work towards it as well it doesn’t happen. She says I dont have “faith”, I say I do but maybe not the kind of blind faith that she does. Go figure!

People believe what they want to believe.. always remember that. It doesn’t make one person’s viewpoint right and the other’s wrong. Your belief is what you hold close to your heart… for whatever reason – usually ur personal experiences so far. The same goes for the other person. Sometimes it’s best to leave certain things they way are… introspection only worsens it.

By: Pavitra

Pavitra — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:17:48 +0000

@Rahul: Thanks! :-) Lots of love and hugs coming your way too!

By: Pavitra

Pavitra — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:01:16 +0000

@Kash, Tanu, Tsu, Afo and D: I know it was a very simple thing you said about agreeing to disagree but it is also a major lesson to learn and hard to master. But knowing you have to learn something is a step forward in itself. One of the biggest things I got from your comments was no matter how close you are to someone, you are still you and what someone else thinks should bother you only so much. Thanks.
@Puls: I’ve believed in keeping communication lines open…in striving to explain no matter what but sometimes that may not be the best thing. Sometimes it is very difficult to get someone else to shift their paradigms and they might not necessarily be wrong in not wanting to shift it.
@Mads: You are right…these arguments only serve to make your faith stronger, they teach you things about yourself that only you can internally improve, they serve to isolate the strength within you that is ready to accept that believing could be a lonely stance and something one might be able to share. Love ya!
@WM: Sure you can! :)
@Neha: You hit the nail on the target and got to the crux better than I can. What hurt me most was that I felt I do not have the freedom to not be associated with a certain cult. I do not want to be accepted as a Theist nor do I think anyone has the right to bracket me as an atheist. All I want is to have the freedom to evolve my belief outside of some brackets or definition and to be accepted for what I believe in. I am not wrong for what I believe in and one must know how vast open varied and beautiful a place the universe is to allow anyone to believe in their perception of God and believe it to be true.

By: Neha

Neha — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:05:27 +0000

love para 3 and 4

perhaps the kind of space you talk of itself comes form the view that there are multiple ways to experience the universe and not one ideal correct way… and that view itself is not a part of some world views (theistic or atheistic)… so this is a fundamental limitation of most world-views… we’re all trying to make utopias or ideal case scenarios perhaps only because it gives us the assurance that we are following a correct path…

By: The Wandering Minstrel

The Wandering Minstrel — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:57:33 +0000

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By: Madhuri

Madhuri — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:46:53 +0000

I feel its all for you to evolve, to make you go deeper in your own faith. I have been into The Art of Living for five years now, and trust me every argument on why I follow it has been shredded apart.

Just know that faith has nothing to do with logic, as anything that can be proved can also be disproved. Faith, love, compassion is from the heart, so its intangible.

I’d just say people who are insecure and narrow minded are the once who do not accept other as they have. My faith is my experience, and you simply cannot question it. Its like I have a pain in my leg, and if you refuse to accept it. Its not my problem.

Having said that, I know how painful it is to have someone close not understand you. In that scanario, I just say, like everyone has a right to have your own faith, everyone has a right to be ignorant.

instead of crying, i’ve learned to laugh at it or not get into such arguements in the first place (agree to disagree)

By: Afo

Afo — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:22:08 +0000

Sorry. Wright brothers it is. Perhaps Orville Wright.

By: Afo

Afo — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:08:18 +0000

I will not tell you what is best or bad. I have no religion. I chose to give up the man-made label a long time ago. But my name lets people believe I am ‘Muslim’ and their minds bind me within the conventions of that label. I am often asked why I don’t ‘look’ like one. And it saddens me, their assumption.

I only have one thing to say to you, and that I borrow from the Orville brothers:
“If we worked on the assumption that what is accepted as true really is true, then there would be little hope for advance”